did we go…perhaps, but perhaps not. you have to figure that their our mistakes and lies in every level of what man does. we lie to our parents, they lie to us. we fib to our bosses, ourselves and occasionally we gather in groups and fib together. to defend the idea of democracy over communism, we lied to our people and the world. we might not have totally lied, we got there, we just didn’t bring the film back through a radiation belt in the 60s and 70s among the car driving, golfing and other nonsense we claim we did on the moon.

spend 15 minutes and listen to joe rogan (great podcaster and debator) and listen to some of the points that are being made. open your mind a bit, as man’s biggest problem is the failure to listen to the other side.